tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.comments2009-08-14T09:39:07.130-07:00Adminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01698035544325881736noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-80338561318782580542009-08-14T09:39:07.130-07:002009-08-14T09:39:07.130-07:00I also agree with you premise. The way I look at it is there is a huge disconnect between any premiums you pay and any particular service you ask for. That is where the problem lies - no direct accountability. Free market forces could improve that. Handing out FREE services to anyone that wants them will make that worse.<br /><br />Most of us get insurance through our employer. The costs are hidden from us.<br /><br />When I paid my own premiums for disaster insurance and paid out of pocket for the small stuff, we took better care of ourselves and watched everything health care related we spent money on. When you (I) are opening your own wallet, you may not &quot;need&quot; another chiropractice adjustment or sealants for your teeth or wart burned off your foot or whatever. That is free market forces the expenditures down.Jeffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07874437558807571484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-32959064254677058792009-08-14T03:48:21.480-07:002009-08-14T03:48:21.480-07:00Here&#39;s the hitch: hospitals/health care providers are morally and legally responsible for giving their product to whoever needs it, even if they can&#39;t pay. But the doctors, nurses, technicians, etc. who work in these places, and the medical equipment makers and suppliers and drug companies, still get paid for everyone they serve. So those who can pay get charged way more to essentially help pay for those who can&#39;t. Until everyone can pay (everyone has insurance, essentially) you will have either a reason or an excuse for charging for $400 bobsled stays. Once everyone is able to pay for services (by whatever means), THEN consumers can say, &quot;HEY, what the hell is up with $400 for a bobsled?&quot; and there will be no reason/excuse. Simply saying &quot;the prices are way to high&quot; is way to simplistic.pressdoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14116626812974787639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-74062254266085755052009-08-14T02:30:22.095-07:002009-08-14T02:30:22.095-07:00You hit the nail on the head, Tim. The consumer (ie, the patient) has no control over the costs, as they would in a free market system; too often you find out after choices are made what the costs are.<br /><br />But the counter-intuitive part is that we all still pay for the uninsured. When I got an ear infection while uninsured, I had to go to a clinic and pay $85 for an exam, and $50 for the medicine. If I hadn&#39;t had that money (and at the time, I really didn&#39;t have it), I might have had to skip the care, risking greater damage and costs dealing with a bigger infection and possibly a surgery... which would have been done at an emergency room, where they are required by law to treat first and deal with money later.<br /><br />So while it sounds easy to say, &quot;we can&#39;t afford to cover everyone&quot;, the reality is that you can end up paying more down the road for NOT covering everyone.<br /><br />And has anyone else noticed that the major costs cited by the auto companies and by the post office as contributing to their bankruptcies have been from paying for health care benefits? It seems to me that covering everyone is a small first step; there will be a long, boring process of fixing other problems in the system after that.Tadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06972140054283279414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-1450969647189200982009-03-05T16:16:00.000-08:002009-03-05T16:16:00.000-08:00what's this thing with shoes? You wanna talk about something?<BR/><BR/>:)Seanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10657613468039092313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-59113133429738725272009-02-17T09:21:00.000-08:002009-02-17T09:21:00.000-08:00I wish that they were feeling buyers' remorse, but I doubt those who voted yes are.Shane Vander Harthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17148737191721551327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-51630709099318459532008-11-21T20:36:00.000-08:002008-11-21T20:36:00.000-08:00hey, tim-<BR/>thank you.Seanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16125310526132140858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-35889437969978440412008-11-17T21:51:00.000-08:002008-11-17T21:51:00.000-08:00I SO know what you mean... and we really need to catch up some time! Hang in there, my brother.murphy24phttp://murphy24p.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-74152863799310379342008-11-01T13:43:00.000-07:002008-11-01T13:43:00.000-07:00I actually thought of you while I was reading this blog post. Those mic's at Sweetwater with the GIANT multi-color windscreens. :)<BR/><BR/>TimTim Yateshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01698035544325881736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-56427164093263771432008-10-31T21:19:00.000-07:002008-10-31T21:19:00.000-07:00Uh, just so you know... I'm a fan too! (or would it be "2"?) I'd really like it if you blogged more as well!murphy24phttp://murphy24p.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-55174363556166093252008-09-03T22:00:00.000-07:002008-09-03T22:00:00.000-07:00Ummm... I can neither confirm nor deny that. :)<BR/><BR/>TimTim Yateshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01698035544325881736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-3753310351555435872008-09-03T20:06:00.000-07:002008-09-03T20:06:00.000-07:00BTW - is your blog title "<I>POINT</I>ed in a new direction" a clever reference to your past job? (well, 2 jobs ago, now!)John Chttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01613868693241214215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-38266858924878539292008-09-03T20:04:00.000-07:002008-09-03T20:04:00.000-07:00ya - I had the same kinda thing at Parkview with the college kids when they were like "Jeff Porcaro - who? Steve Gadd - who? Toto - who?"John Chttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01613868693241214215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-61043193499702671082008-09-03T19:25:00.000-07:002008-09-03T19:25:00.000-07:00Start counting how many times you say, "When I was your age..."<BR/><BR/>This over-40 thing is SO not what I thought it would be!murphy24phttp://murphy24p.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-14208013827572046182008-09-03T01:52:00.000-07:002008-09-03T01:52:00.000-07:00I'm not sure how I missed this but it just showed up in my reader. Anyway - wow - <B>CONGRATS!</B> That's <B>VERY</B> cool. I know that&#39;s a good church. They&#39;re lucky to have you. We lead worship there for one of the EV Free Regional Conferences or something like that shortly after I came to Parkview (which is another EVF church.) Anyway, very cool. I&#39;m happy for you!<BR/><BR/>We have some friends that attend there I think - Nevin &amp; Janene Suddarth. Nevin was Exec Pastor at Parkview for 2 years and Janene was receptionist and very involved in worship as a vocalist. (kind of a Sandy Patty style type.) Nevin went back into the marketplace and they moved to DM last year for his job. But both GREAT people.<BR/><BR/> Also a VERY good/great violinist Meagan Harris I believe goes there. She used to go to PV when she was in school here. <BR/><BR/>Keep me posted. Let me know if there&#39;s anything I can ever do for you there!! <BR/><BR/> - JohnJohn Chttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01613868693241214215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-60944209833054394732008-07-17T22:47:00.000-07:002008-07-17T22:47:00.000-07:00I know isn't it cool!<BR/><BR/>I enjoy reading your stuff as well.<BR/><BR/>TimTim Yateshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01698035544325881736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-29014240498964939312008-07-17T16:25:00.000-07:002008-07-17T16:25:00.000-07:00Timmy!<BR/><BR/>Welcome to the blog-o-sphere! Now I can keep up with you as well.<BR/><BR/>*high five*murphy24phttp://murphy24p.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-23517607125037306342008-07-17T15:13:00.000-07:002008-07-17T15:13:00.000-07:00wait now . . . . you're a GUY??? Dang, I never knew that! I always thought . . . . Ok, joke over.Johnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14897291364661270016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-83187064938296870952008-07-15T20:42:00.000-07:002008-07-15T20:42:00.000-07:00Welcome to the blogosphere! <BR/><BR/>I enjoyed your thoughts on the missionary that would come to your church. I remember how cool it was to have a missionary show some "slides" in church - talk about high tech - <BR/><BR/>Maybe your journey will help me when I turn 40 - Glad you are taking notes! I look forward going on this ride with you!<BR/><BR/>kjwkjwhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18370197432205851596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816532891225418764.post-50606969534297095902008-07-15T12:25:00.000-07:002008-07-15T12:25:00.000-07:00love the ants!<BR/><BR/>Reminds me of one time on a team retreat at Navy Pier in Chicago, they gave each of us a polaroid camera and we were told to take a picture of something that represents where we were at in life at the moment. I took a picture of the blurred merry go round horses going round and round . . . alluding to feeling like I'm running in circles, always with a big smile on my face looking like nothing's wrong, but in reality feeling like I'm going nowhere!Johnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14897291364661270016noreply@blogger.com